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i'm a 21 there's going to be a terrific

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earthquake way way greater than anything

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that the earth has ever experienced and

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that'll be the beginning of Judgment Day

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the rest of the world will know

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instantly that judgement day has begun

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because all the earthquake sensors will

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pick that up instantly and they will be

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able until it comes with 2 6pm a 21 in

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their city they will be able to witness

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what has happened there it's going to

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happen that's why when we bring the

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morning to the world that judgement day

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is coming we don't say maybe or high

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likelihood we're saying Judgment Day is

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welcome to the skeptic zone the podcast

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yes it's the skeptic zone for the 21st

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of may 2011 let me just check my

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calendar again yes the twenty first of

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may 2011 a date that will live in

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hilarity unfortunately unfortunately for

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all those people who sincerely believe

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that rapture or whatever it was was

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coming today our hearts go out to some

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of those people who sincerely thought

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this who sold up their goods who abandon

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the last year of their lives who even

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thought about killing their pets and so

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on and so forth you know the best

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comment about this whole sad story I've

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seen lately has been has been from vikki

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hide of the New Zealand skeptics who

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said on New Zealand television that

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these people the organizers should be

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held accountable for doing this for

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scaring people for spreading this

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ludicrous story now where's the line you

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know where's the line that we say well

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it's just a religious belief or whatever

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it is or when do we say no you can't run

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around scaring people like this telling

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them outrageous stories and making them

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fearful enough to to do possibly

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regrettable acts anyway needless to say

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it's not quite 6pm although in other

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no reports about bizarre earthquakes or

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raptures or anything like that and it is

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sad to think that it won't be too long

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maybe a few years maybe five ten that

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proclaiming the end of the world and

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people will be following them to maybe

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slowly bit by bit we can weed out this

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cancerous growth in our society and

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spare people good people the pain and

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suffering and utter despair and worry

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that they must be going through right

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now but let's brighten up this wig show

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we have a ripper of an interview a

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really great interview conducted by

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Maynard of Paul cropper now he's the man

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I do admire and a sneaky sort of way

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he's a cryptozoologist he goes out

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hunting for Bigfoot like creatures here

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to the girl days of um mysticism or

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paranormal in the 1970s when UFOs and

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Bigfoots and lockers monsters were all

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interview and as with a couple of months

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invite you to leave your comments about

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this man's arguments on our comment

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section if you go to skeptics on TV and

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would we'd appreciate your your thoughts

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and opinions on his arguments the way he

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could sit here and well pick apart what

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he says or not you know I'd rather read

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what do you have to say very interesting

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following that we have the final in our

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Sydney a talk given by Jason Brown who

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put it all together at a recent skeptics

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in the pub where he goes over the

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organization and the planning and the

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process and how successful it was

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and oh there's a dog barking outside

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maybe the rapture is coming and it's an

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invaluable lesson for anybody around the

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world listening who is thinking of

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putting on their own skeptic count

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listen to what jason has to say great

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insights and great tips very good

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information and to wrap up the show a

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minuscule think tank dr. H and I having

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a quick bite of lunch and discussing a

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few things like the impending doom of

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the earth well just in case all right

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just in case i'm going to nip down and

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years may not spooky action at a

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night and animal at night the PAP

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shouldn't be where it is while we're

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looking at someone now Paul cropper who

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cryptozoologist and have I got the

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pronunciation of the word right is it

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zoologists or zoologist Paul do all it

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just but yet it if it's a term used to

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yaoi or be cat now there was been a

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incident okay um it happened yesterday

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when this chat who does a lot of driving

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walking very slowly thought well the bot

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fringe of the road but he came up to

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two trees standing upright with and he

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two o'clock in the morning people might

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lengthy absorb servation of this

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my fatigue and I manage when I Drive

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statistic so he said look it was too

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a person and imagine things and I saw

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this thing Quietus in fact you had it in

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creature now Paul as well as a writing

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also written out of the shadows I

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a great range of Australian animals yeah

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that's correct I mean in Australia we've

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got a good score tradition of all

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Rangers mystery monsters we've got the

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Bunyip our river and lake mystery

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animals we've got the big cat that you

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the bush and crossing roads and of

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Himalayas and what is the best evidence

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evidence will be got that we can test

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absolutely not we'll get through the

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week we haven't even got any scatter

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mean at least with Bigfoot they claim to

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have some scat droppings that's true and

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footprints no look you know there's that

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question that it's extremely odd and an

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argument almost for the thing for the

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Explorer disturbing kinds of folklore

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fantasy the fact there aren't any bodies

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or there's no hard evidence but look

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what we do have is and perhaps the the

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single point of strong evidence is the

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fact these stories they're not just a

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recent invention post Bigfoot

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documentaries in the states we've

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actually got as we as we put in our book

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on the young probably got a couple

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hundred reports we had 350 alone in the

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the present day so this is solid

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which both the aboriginal legends and

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the same thing now you know people are

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gloves of jello running around what they

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cat report and you know hundreds and

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report it but you know people are

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singing and have been think the hundreds

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of you is the same thing these tall hair

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covered animals that look like a gorilla

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on two legs so you know there's no

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bodies and that's really strange but I

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don't believe that that you know that

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you can account for all of these reports

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by saying people are mistaken or lying

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or their hoaxes I just don't believe

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that's the case so what would be the

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best way to try and find one I mean that

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what would you do if you had a bit of

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money and you were trying to find look

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if you were well financed Paul how do

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you find a gallery I know I get maybe

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the best way to do it would be to just

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have a concentration reports there's

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barrington tops area you know find one

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of these find an area where well this is

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undiscovered animal I'd say just get the

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money cheering Ariel hard and you know

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tracks if it leaks tract you know you

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can you can get dog so you can get

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people that are changing sort of

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subscription follows up but you know

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what happens generally is that people

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run across this thing aren't really

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expecting it are looking for it they're

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driving or there's water than the push

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and you know these things whatever they

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are seem to act like animals dislike to

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avoid contact with people you know they

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move around at night they're in remote

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parts of the bush but yeah I'd say forty

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the best way to try and tackle it

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assuming that it's some undiscovered

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animal get a team in to a place where

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there's been a lot of rapport and

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there's a few areas at our Hospital and

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what is the reaction of the scientific

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community to you do they even want to

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broach the subject with you look you

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know it's funny over the over the past

293
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couple of decades that I've been

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interested in the subject just

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occasionally you do get the odd

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interested scientists probably also more

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from the point of view that these are

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interesting it's like the interesting

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folklore or perhaps just perhaps you

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know at one time maybe there was some

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species of early man here before the

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aboriginal settlement and perhaps these

303
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legends of the aboriginals

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connected to that but most of them

305
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actually not most and pretty much all of

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them consider the modern reports just to

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be fantasy and what again what's the

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most active area in Australia for

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sightings of not only the Yowie but

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animals it will be considered

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cryptozoology look you probably ought to

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get the Blue Mountains a new south wales

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I'd say huh going only an hour's trip

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from Sidon you get big cap reports you

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get a couple of dozen of our reports

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stretching back to the late eighteen

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hundreds so it's real consistent

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tradition also the goal post is bit of

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hot as well and the area particularly

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year round yeah just the back of the

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gold coast in the influence now what

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about the Hunter Valley what about

323
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around newcastle on the Upper Hunter we

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got many yaoi gear sitings up there cuz

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it's a bit of a no no I don't hear I

326
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hear the occasional big cat that might

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turn up out of place but not I haven't

328
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heard many yaoi stuff why don't you look

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I think we've got me this revision but I

330
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think the thing with the our stories is

331
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there so inherently wacky that people

332
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who see these things that pretty much

333
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predispose not telling one anyway and I

334
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think there's also thinking is trained

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character you know as soon as someone

336
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steps out and says they saw something

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weird you can imagine the sort of flight

338
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they give them their friends their

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co-workers I think it's always brave

340
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when some like Dean was brave enough to

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sort of get him to talk to this look I

342
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saw this thing I'm willing to stand by

343
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what I you know what I what I saw but um

344
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yeah the Newcastle oh he's got quite a

345
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history in fact one of the elvish

346
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gallery report what I believe is he out

347
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we were at least again how he tried

348
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creature was on the 1820s in mouth sugar

349
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loaf which is sort of new west wallsend

350
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and Captain Peter Collins who was an

351
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author who wrote book in 1827 actually

352
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talked about a legends of a creature

353
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called the put a can which was the local

354
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a lot of cool people talked about

355
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prediction which was a tall hair covered

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creature like well they just said it

357
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round the bush at night and actually

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took away young Aboriginal children

359
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stolen from fireside so it was yet but

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it was described as being tall and hair

361
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covered and like a man sort of pretty

362
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much like our prisons a Yowie and we got

363
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anything that approaches a photo of one

364
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no no I mean and that

365
00:15:36,769 --> 00:15:35,220
surprised me too much yeah buddy

366
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imitates that when people like let's say

367
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thing he's driving it to thirty in the

368
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morning you don't really have a camera

369
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to hand most of these in cameras aren't

370
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necessarily hours long they might only

371
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be a few seconds Dean said interview for

372
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about 20 seconds so that's not too

373
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surprising on the other hand you know

374
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people with bushwalking stuff quite

375
00:15:55,939 --> 00:15:53,699
often do our digital cameras and so yeah

376
00:15:58,069 --> 00:15:55,949
it's odd there's a few photos what

377
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people claim to be yo is none of them

378
00:16:03,050 --> 00:16:00,720
are particularly convincing or you know

379
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crystal clear none of them look like you

380
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know the photographs of scene of chance

381
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or gorillas turn nothing nothing

382
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conclusive yet now your website yaoi

383
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file calm has lots of reports and lots

384
00:16:20,030 --> 00:16:17,730
of drawings that people have made what

385
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do you think is the best sighting that's

386
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been made in Australian history of an

387
00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:24,810
alleged yaoi okay back in about nineteen

388
00:16:29,990 --> 00:16:27,930
seventy-seven a young balochi who laid

389
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it and you later became National Party

390
00:16:34,970 --> 00:16:31,740
senator for Queensland was on a school

391
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campus about 20 other kids this was in

392
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the area of the Springbrook which is

393
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again that hot spot behind the Gold

394
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Coast up in the mountains and the

395
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implant and they claimed that at that

396
00:16:50,750 --> 00:16:48,480
school camp they all watched from this

397
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camp building this animal moving around

398
00:16:53,930 --> 00:16:52,110
the hilltop which couldn't be anything

399
00:16:56,569 --> 00:16:53,940
else but he go he said it was gigantic

400
00:16:59,420 --> 00:16:56,579
tall hair covered and he said at least

401
00:17:00,620 --> 00:16:59,430
twenty the boys I watched it and some of

402
00:17:04,250 --> 00:17:00,630
them even have binoculars impartial

403
00:17:06,319 --> 00:17:04,260
binoculars so when we found this story

404
00:17:08,659 --> 00:17:06,329
which was in the paper in 1977 and went

405
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up to contact ability he was extremely

406
00:17:12,110 --> 00:17:10,439
reluctant to talk about if it said look

407
00:17:14,020 --> 00:17:12,120
in the end he says look I saw what I saw

408
00:17:17,630 --> 00:17:14,030
so yeah I'll go on the record as having

409
00:17:18,860 --> 00:17:17,640
seen in yo e now we also consume of kids

410
00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:18,870
are at the count at the time we were

411
00:17:22,970 --> 00:17:20,970
obviously now adults they said yeah we

412
00:17:25,010 --> 00:17:22,980
saw this thing you know it wasn't a guy

413
00:17:26,419 --> 00:17:25,020
in a suit it was something real so the

414
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fact that you know bill was willing to

415
00:17:29,570 --> 00:17:27,630
pretty much risk his political

416
00:17:32,180 --> 00:17:29,580
reputation and you can imagine the sort

417
00:17:33,890 --> 00:17:32,190
of comments and flak he was caught from

418
00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:33,900
his political opponents coming out and

419
00:17:38,210 --> 00:17:35,250
saying you saw such a thing I thought

420
00:17:39,950 --> 00:17:38,220
well would you really go not you know

421
00:17:42,350 --> 00:17:39,960
would you would you go on the record if

422
00:17:45,770 --> 00:17:42,360
you were hoaxing or if you were unsure

423
00:17:47,170 --> 00:17:45,780
of what you've seen so the fact there

424
00:17:49,630 --> 00:17:47,180
were so many people there

425
00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:49,640
good witnesses corroboration I think

426
00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:51,650
that's pretty the best you know a report

427
00:17:55,210 --> 00:17:53,330
that we have and that was in 97 showing

428
00:17:57,990 --> 00:17:55,220
know some of the descriptions on your

429
00:18:00,550 --> 00:17:58,000
website they sound like they could be

430
00:18:02,020 --> 00:18:00,560
like a ghillie suit like the snipers

431
00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:02,030
we're like they like they basically add

432
00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:04,250
all sorts of grass and stuff to hide in

433
00:18:07,090 --> 00:18:05,450
the in the grass but that couldn't

434
00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:07,100
account for all including against

435
00:18:10,540 --> 00:18:09,170
snipers ghillie suit it's true

436
00:18:13,030 --> 00:18:10,550
essentially a lot of the reports say you

437
00:18:15,070 --> 00:18:13,040
know the hair was completely matted wild

438
00:18:18,250 --> 00:18:15,080
and yeah a little bit like a ghillie

439
00:18:19,900 --> 00:18:18,260
suit that you know some of the some of

440
00:18:24,310 --> 00:18:19,910
the reports that describe this little

441
00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:24,320
wall Harry appearance again go back to

442
00:18:27,910 --> 00:18:25,850
the 1800s they weren't killing suits

443
00:18:29,980 --> 00:18:27,920
around then the other thing too is a lot

444
00:18:31,510 --> 00:18:29,990
of reports happened the most completely

445
00:18:33,070 --> 00:18:31,520
remote in out-of-the-way places so

446
00:18:34,810 --> 00:18:33,080
unless you're thinking that there's this

447
00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:34,820
whole raft of hoaxes dressing up and

448
00:18:38,890 --> 00:18:35,930
ghillie suits and going out to the

449
00:18:41,470 --> 00:18:38,900
absolute back of nowhere you know

450
00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:41,480
waiting to jump out in the middle of the

451
00:18:45,130 --> 00:18:42,770
night in front of people now that's not

452
00:18:46,030 --> 00:18:45,140
impossible but quite a few other people

453
00:18:48,340 --> 00:18:46,040
that are men reports to have been

454
00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:48,350
hunters with rifles so I'd say if people

455
00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:49,850
were doing that reasonably often then

456
00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:53,810
you know I think we'd have you know we

457
00:18:58,420 --> 00:18:55,850
had a few fatalities on your hand that's

458
00:19:01,540 --> 00:18:58,430
disgusting the case and Paul proper what

459
00:19:04,540 --> 00:19:01,550
has drawn you to this cryptozoology

460
00:19:05,860 --> 00:19:04,550
research why am I the hour you seem like

461
00:19:08,230 --> 00:19:05,870
you're really intense with your research

462
00:19:10,660 --> 00:19:08,240
there why this particular subject well I

463
00:19:13,120 --> 00:19:10,670
think it's a fascinating at the very

464
00:19:14,530 --> 00:19:13,130
least it's an absolutely kind of

465
00:19:18,540 --> 00:19:14,540
fascinating part of our Australian

466
00:19:20,860 --> 00:19:18,550
folklore and one of the few what about

467
00:19:22,900 --> 00:19:20,870
with a few pieces of our folklore that

468
00:19:25,300 --> 00:19:22,910
shared between Aboriginal culture and

469
00:19:27,490 --> 00:19:25,310
European culture the body of sort of

470
00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:27,500
cross that divide and so does the yaoi

471
00:19:31,630 --> 00:19:30,170
because they're pretty much I've talked

472
00:19:33,910 --> 00:19:31,640
to Aboriginal people say oh yeah we call

473
00:19:36,490 --> 00:19:33,920
it hairy man you white people call it

474
00:19:38,260 --> 00:19:36,500
the Yowie and this strong traditions

475
00:19:42,510 --> 00:19:38,270
this kind of link makes them think you

476
00:19:45,610 --> 00:19:42,520
know it's it's not imagination it's not

477
00:19:49,140 --> 00:19:45,620
if there's a real puzzle here and it's a

478
00:19:51,730 --> 00:19:49,150
puzzle that stretches over the centuries

479
00:19:55,300 --> 00:19:51,740
it's not unique to Australia but we seem

480
00:19:58,180 --> 00:19:55,310
to have I'm particular unique flavor to

481
00:20:01,149 --> 00:19:58,190
it the i think it's a it's a fascinating

482
00:20:02,529 --> 00:20:01,159
mystery you know and whilst most get

483
00:20:05,589 --> 00:20:02,539
pixel underwater as completely as

484
00:20:08,409 --> 00:20:05,599
folklore or mistake focus or just

485
00:20:10,509 --> 00:20:08,419
folklore and you're talking to a group

486
00:20:12,339 --> 00:20:10,519
of people who are just really emotional

487
00:20:14,830 --> 00:20:12,349
that what they've seen a close range in

488
00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:14,840
daylight multiple witness findings you

489
00:20:20,229 --> 00:20:16,369
think no it's something more than that

490
00:20:22,710 --> 00:20:20,239
and what it is I'm not really sure but I

491
00:20:24,759 --> 00:20:22,720
found that sort of journey and

492
00:20:27,129 --> 00:20:24,769
collecting the material and speaking of

493
00:20:28,749 --> 00:20:27,139
people just the more that I collect the

494
00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:28,759
more that I believe look there's a

495
00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:31,369
genuinely there's a genuine mystery here

496
00:20:37,060 --> 00:20:34,970
and it's worth trying to get to to the

497
00:20:39,279 --> 00:20:37,070
bottle and worldwide what do you think

498
00:20:41,049 --> 00:20:39,289
is the most fascinating cryptozoological

499
00:20:43,539 --> 00:20:41,059
animals there one elsewhere in the world

500
00:20:44,830 --> 00:20:43,549
that fascinates you as much I must admit

501
00:20:46,450 --> 00:20:44,840
I've got a soft spot for the Loch Ness

502
00:20:48,580 --> 00:20:46,460
monster only cuz i think is Loch Ness

503
00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:48,590
about three or four times and whilst you

504
00:20:52,149 --> 00:20:50,450
know there may not be a monster in Loch

505
00:20:54,729 --> 00:20:52,159
Ness but like business they should be

506
00:20:56,409 --> 00:20:54,739
it's a spooky spot that yeah that's

507
00:20:57,909 --> 00:20:56,419
pretty my personal favorite yeah I've

508
00:20:59,619 --> 00:20:57,919
been there twice myself and there's just

509
00:21:01,659 --> 00:20:59,629
something about even the water there is

510
00:21:03,190 --> 00:21:01,669
a bit creepy yeah that's like you know

511
00:21:06,639 --> 00:21:03,200
I've always thought they may not be

512
00:21:09,489 --> 00:21:06,649
emotionally but they should be and what

513
00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:09,499
about aquatic crypt is it cryptozoology

514
00:21:13,089 --> 00:21:11,330
if it's in the efforts an aquatic animal

515
00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:13,099
is a different term for that yeah well

516
00:21:16,779 --> 00:21:14,450
you know in Australia of course our

517
00:21:18,669 --> 00:21:16,789
River and Lake Monsters we use the kind

518
00:21:20,739 --> 00:21:18,679
of generic term Bunyan and it's

519
00:21:22,690 --> 00:21:20,749
interesting that you know we don't get

520
00:21:25,419 --> 00:21:22,700
many bunny reports anymore in fact we we

521
00:21:28,450 --> 00:21:25,429
haven't from the point in the middle of

522
00:21:30,669 --> 00:21:28,460
last century when we started putting

523
00:21:33,669 --> 00:21:30,679
major waterworks and make a dancing

524
00:21:35,109 --> 00:21:33,679
place across the rivers in our book out

525
00:21:38,169 --> 00:21:35,119
of the shadows we talked about onion

526
00:21:40,659 --> 00:21:38,179
stories now heating was that the large

527
00:21:42,879 --> 00:21:40,669
majority of the reports with feels that

528
00:21:45,369 --> 00:21:42,889
could actually make their way into fresh

529
00:21:48,580 --> 00:21:45,379
water in fact there's pretty good

530
00:21:50,619 --> 00:21:48,590
reports of feels making away from you

531
00:21:52,029 --> 00:21:50,629
know up to goulburn from the mouth of

532
00:21:54,219 --> 00:21:52,039
the market which is like about 2,000

533
00:21:55,869 --> 00:21:54,229
kilometers upstream and you know our

534
00:21:57,519 --> 00:21:55,879
viewers in so many in the descriptions

535
00:21:59,799 --> 00:21:57,529
talk about a feel like our well it's

536
00:22:01,989 --> 00:21:59,809
quite possible that people were just

537
00:22:04,419 --> 00:22:01,999
seeing these big animals in waterways

538
00:22:06,099 --> 00:22:04,429
and Billabong just thought it was

539
00:22:07,450 --> 00:22:06,109
something I mean there's a small

540
00:22:09,940 --> 00:22:07,460
percentage chance that it was actually

541
00:22:13,210 --> 00:22:09,950
any under sculpt animal that possibly

542
00:22:14,109 --> 00:22:13,220
became extinct after we changed the way

543
00:22:16,149 --> 00:22:14,119
there it is

544
00:22:19,329 --> 00:22:16,159
flowed so significantly with these dams

545
00:22:21,189 --> 00:22:19,339
and where's and so forth but but you

546
00:22:23,679 --> 00:22:21,199
know it does seem like in a way the

547
00:22:26,259 --> 00:22:23,689
Yowie has become the bunny of the bunion

548
00:22:29,949 --> 00:22:26,269
twas all over newspapers and journals it

549
00:22:32,619 --> 00:22:29,959
was incredibly highly visible mysterious

550
00:22:35,589 --> 00:22:32,629
monster late eighteen hundreds early

551
00:22:37,179 --> 00:22:35,599
1900s and now it's almost like our focus

552
00:22:39,909 --> 00:22:37,189
is shifted away from that onto this kind

553
00:22:42,519 --> 00:22:39,919
of an increase for the Yale again they

554
00:22:44,739 --> 00:22:42,529
must must be pointed out the Yowie have

555
00:22:47,139 --> 00:22:44,749
any of these mythical zub animals

556
00:22:51,909 --> 00:22:47,149
Athenian actually attacked people well

557
00:22:54,519 --> 00:22:51,919
they kind of peaceful well the big cats

558
00:22:55,959 --> 00:22:54,529
have occasionally a few stories are

559
00:22:59,619 --> 00:22:55,969
people being attacked by big cats again

560
00:23:01,449 --> 00:22:59,629
no fatalities but no most experienced of

561
00:23:03,489 --> 00:23:01,459
yo is just appear you know they they

562
00:23:06,059 --> 00:23:03,499
they asked i guess as if you'd expect

563
00:23:09,069 --> 00:23:06,069
and all that just wants to be left alone

564
00:23:11,769 --> 00:23:09,079
Jack they just can't you like in this

565
00:23:14,049 --> 00:23:11,779
case cross the road walk in the bush and

566
00:23:15,069 --> 00:23:14,059
walk away which is also kind of

567
00:23:16,929 --> 00:23:15,079
interesting I guess if you're thinking

568
00:23:18,339 --> 00:23:16,939
of people who are making up stories they

569
00:23:21,159 --> 00:23:18,349
do things a little bit more exciting

570
00:23:24,129 --> 00:23:21,169
jump up and down fun things you know

571
00:23:27,009 --> 00:23:24,139
scream I don't know look there be a

572
00:23:28,749 --> 00:23:27,019
little bit more showmanship if you know

573
00:23:30,099 --> 00:23:28,759
if people may have these stories just

574
00:23:31,569 --> 00:23:30,109
for attention where is you know almost

575
00:23:33,879 --> 00:23:31,579
ninety nine point nine percent of these

576
00:23:36,309 --> 00:23:33,889
reports people saying now it just you

577
00:23:38,499 --> 00:23:36,319
know your path it was looking at me for

578
00:23:40,419 --> 00:23:38,509
a while stopped turned walked off and

579
00:23:42,069 --> 00:23:40,429
because the Yowie has nothing to do with

580
00:23:44,219 --> 00:23:42,079
the name it makes it comes from the

581
00:23:47,079 --> 00:23:44,229
original aboriginal name is that correct

582
00:23:48,939 --> 00:23:47,089
well there's in a bit of a debate about

583
00:23:52,389 --> 00:23:48,949
where the name comes from the word thumb

584
00:23:56,589 --> 00:23:52,399
in the word the first use of the word

585
00:24:02,289 --> 00:23:56,599
yaoi at you know that the common usage

586
00:24:03,669 --> 00:24:02,299
actually came from a European writer in

587
00:24:06,189 --> 00:24:03,679
the 60s she was writing about an

588
00:24:08,349 --> 00:24:06,199
aboriginal legend in the area around a

589
00:24:10,299 --> 00:24:08,359
fost and he said the aboriginals they're

590
00:24:12,849 --> 00:24:10,309
called it yaoi but to be honest most up

591
00:24:14,619 --> 00:24:12,859
originals most of the documentation the

592
00:24:16,299 --> 00:24:14,629
aboriginals don't use the word yelling

593
00:24:18,519 --> 00:24:16,309
at all in fact they call it the hearing

594
00:24:19,929 --> 00:24:18,529
down to the great hairy man so and their

595
00:24:21,939 --> 00:24:19,939
view was that these things were here

596
00:24:23,799 --> 00:24:21,949
before the aboriginals arrived they say

597
00:24:25,629 --> 00:24:23,809
these things to be original inhabitants

598
00:24:27,510 --> 00:24:25,639
of the country and a lot of iterations

599
00:24:30,150 --> 00:24:27,520
of stories about regionals and these

600
00:24:32,820 --> 00:24:30,160
creatures engaged fighting the Yowies

601
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:32,830
kind of got the worst into the stick and

602
00:24:38,190 --> 00:24:35,050
aunt they ended up hitting back into the

603
00:24:40,500 --> 00:24:38,200
back country and you know that that kind

604
00:24:42,690 --> 00:24:40,510
of a legend is in many of the aboriginal

605
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:42,700
tribes on his coat and where's the

606
00:24:46,260 --> 00:24:44,410
website again where people can contact

607
00:24:48,900 --> 00:24:46,270
you get involved in a debate and just

608
00:24:50,340 --> 00:24:48,910
see what evidence you found sure happy

609
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:50,350
to give them anyone with a story or any

610
00:24:56,580 --> 00:24:53,410
information and on my website yaoi file

611
00:24:57,960 --> 00:24:56,590
or one word doc calm right well thank

612
00:24:59,400 --> 00:24:57,970
you Paul I'm sure we'll be chatting in

613
00:25:01,320 --> 00:24:59,410
the future because how often does one of

614
00:25:02,820 --> 00:25:01,330
these sightings are turn up and is there

615
00:25:05,700 --> 00:25:02,830
a bit of a season are they be zero in

616
00:25:07,500 --> 00:25:05,710
summer or winter has it work family week

617
00:25:11,100 --> 00:25:07,510
a couple months and you know some of the

618
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:11,110
muggy a few years old that we and the

619
00:25:17,850 --> 00:25:13,930
group of people that I work with look we

620
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:17,860
get about possibly two or three reports

621
00:25:23,550 --> 00:25:21,730
a month most of them you know we treat

622
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:23,560
them very confidentially and but we get

623
00:25:28,530 --> 00:25:25,330
about to steady two or three and yeah

624
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:28,540
doesn't seem to be that any season is

625
00:25:33,690 --> 00:25:30,010
years better than any other so i think

626
00:25:36,750 --> 00:25:33,700
these whatever experiences that people

627
00:25:38,190 --> 00:25:36,760
are happening me into having around yet

628
00:25:52,350 --> 00:25:38,200
another reason to keep your eyes on the

629
00:25:58,720 --> 00:25:57,010
hi I'm a skeptic helm sa the wee beastie

630
00:26:00,550 --> 00:25:58,730
who lives in the look I want to talk

631
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:00,560
about monster talk the podcast

632
00:26:05,410 --> 00:26:02,810
skeptically examines monster story oh

633
00:26:07,870 --> 00:26:05,420
listen to your fancy talk why are you

634
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:07,880
just watching the Lulu monster shows on

635
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:11,690
the teller last night huh oh yeah but

636
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:13,250
but I watched those because they helped

637
00:26:17,470 --> 00:26:14,570
me home my skeptical he'll not be

638
00:26:19,360 --> 00:26:17,480
telling me at far keep eyes live look

639
00:26:20,470 --> 00:26:19,370
why don't you go back in that water over

640
00:26:23,170 --> 00:26:20,480
there and let me talk to people about

641
00:26:25,210 --> 00:26:23,180
monster dog who does that pictures oh it

642
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:25,220
doesn't have pictures is the podcast I

643
00:26:29,290 --> 00:26:27,290
like fixtures missile that's proper

644
00:26:30,790 --> 00:26:29,300
television look if you like pictures so

645
00:26:32,740 --> 00:26:30,800
much to how come all the photos of you

646
00:26:34,330 --> 00:26:32,750
are so blurry I don't know what you're

647
00:26:36,850 --> 00:26:34,340
talking about i live a happy picture

648
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:36,860
taken that's that's probably true I

649
00:26:41,260 --> 00:26:39,410
don't want to be on your show I wanna be

650
00:26:44,260 --> 00:26:41,270
on britain's got talent like Susan Boyle

651
00:26:46,150 --> 00:26:44,270
I want to sing a proper Scottish song

652
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:46,160
anyway please check out monster talk

653
00:26:51,070 --> 00:26:48,290
from your preferred podcast aggregator

654
00:27:02,560 --> 00:26:51,080
her from monster talk org I'm gonna be

655
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:05,330
hello enough what I wanted to do well

656
00:27:08,660 --> 00:27:07,050
what why I was asked to do is come and

657
00:27:11,990 --> 00:27:08,670
give a bit of a talk on what skepta camp

658
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:12,000
is so what I'm doing is I'm adapting a

659
00:27:16,490 --> 00:27:14,970
talk I gave that skip the camp called

660
00:27:19,220 --> 00:27:16,500
skip chem in theory and practice which

661
00:27:23,750 --> 00:27:19,230
is the who what why and how of skeptic

662
00:27:25,310 --> 00:27:23,760
amp I kind of break it up this way it's

663
00:27:26,630 --> 00:27:25,320
not really logical way of breaking it up

664
00:27:28,010 --> 00:27:26,640
but still I do a little bit of the

665
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:28,020
history and the personalities what

666
00:27:34,220 --> 00:27:30,930
skeptic am actually is why we do it and

667
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:34,230
then how we do it so let's get the Box

668
00:27:39,470 --> 00:27:36,050
get straight into it that's all I a

669
00:27:41,390 --> 00:27:39,480
little history first skeptic am is based

670
00:27:43,550 --> 00:27:41,400
on the bar camp and conference model

671
00:27:47,540 --> 00:27:43,560
which some of you been to first of all

672
00:27:53,180 --> 00:27:47,550
who went to skeptic amp you all know

673
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:53,190
about I'm going home good sure this is

674
00:27:57,500 --> 00:27:55,410
be a surprise so it's based on the

675
00:28:02,900 --> 00:27:57,510
barcamp unconference model which started

676
00:28:04,220 --> 00:28:02,910
in there what 2005 after that I've been

677
00:28:06,380 --> 00:28:04,230
gone for at two years a chap called

678
00:28:08,300 --> 00:28:06,390
reduce our in the states in Denver I

679
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:08,310
decided to apply it through the

680
00:28:15,380 --> 00:28:12,210
skeptical community that was quite

681
00:28:18,770 --> 00:28:15,390
successful and in 2008 ye wrote an

682
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:18,780
article in skeptic magazine which was

683
00:28:23,750 --> 00:28:21,210
called I'll just check raising our game

684
00:28:25,430 --> 00:28:23,760
in october two thousand eight and that

685
00:28:28,790 --> 00:28:25,440
really launched skeptic and properly in

686
00:28:30,290 --> 00:28:28,800
the US now it's a very popular format

687
00:28:35,030 --> 00:28:30,300
for conferences and i think they've been

688
00:28:36,380 --> 00:28:35,040
about 40 since 2000 I in 2009 at the

689
00:28:39,170 --> 00:28:36,390
Australian skeptics conference in

690
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:39,180
Brisbane where is skeptical my Umbridge

691
00:28:43,190 --> 00:28:40,650
start did a talk on it and that was

692
00:28:43,379 --> 00:28:43,200
really the first time I got exposed to

693
00:28:51,180 --> 00:28:43,389
the

694
00:28:54,599 --> 00:28:51,190
I feel of us talked about getting a

695
00:28:56,729 --> 00:28:54,609
skeptic am going in in Australia and not

696
00:28:59,430 --> 00:28:56,739
a really a lot happened until 10 I know

697
00:29:03,539 --> 00:28:59,440
a lot of you are at tam how many of you

698
00:29:05,279 --> 00:29:03,549
were in the room oh you see all know the

699
00:29:07,009 --> 00:29:05,289
story again so I got some money thrown

700
00:29:11,369 --> 00:29:07,019
at me when I promise to do a skeptic amp

701
00:29:14,509 --> 00:29:11,379
so so I did I didn't want and a lot of

702
00:29:18,180 --> 00:29:14,519
you of that it was great so what is it

703
00:29:20,699 --> 00:29:18,190
well format as if you've been there

704
00:29:23,369 --> 00:29:20,709
you'll know is basically a day with

705
00:29:26,369 --> 00:29:23,379
short slots that anybody can speak in so

706
00:29:28,649 --> 00:29:26,379
it's a day-long unconference with short

707
00:29:32,339 --> 00:29:28,659
slots for speakers the x times vary but

708
00:29:37,349 --> 00:29:32,349
we did 20 minute slots on saturday that

709
00:29:39,419 --> 00:29:37,359
seemed quite good see so you get sort of

710
00:29:41,430 --> 00:29:39,429
10 minutes for talk 5 to 10 minutes for

711
00:29:43,289 --> 00:29:41,440
questions question announcers and the

712
00:29:45,539 --> 00:29:43,299
idea is that really the attendees are

713
00:29:47,519 --> 00:29:45,549
the speakers we don't pay anyone to come

714
00:29:49,919 --> 00:29:47,529
and talk but not if I a man to come talk

715
00:29:51,779 --> 00:29:49,929
we don't even pre-assigned slots to

716
00:29:54,569 --> 00:29:51,789
people it's all done on the day it's a

717
00:29:57,299 --> 00:29:54,579
very open and sort of a grassroots II

718
00:29:59,999 --> 00:29:57,309
model if you like and I guess that's

719
00:30:01,589 --> 00:30:00,009
kind of how I tend to work with campuses

720
00:30:03,269 --> 00:30:01,599
in these days anyway I don't tend to try

721
00:30:06,659 --> 00:30:03,279
and enable people to get more done

722
00:30:09,419 --> 00:30:06,669
rather than you know like a Randy or

723
00:30:11,310 --> 00:30:09,429
whatever where I actually pontificate

724
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:11,320
from my high platform

725
00:30:17,370 --> 00:30:13,170
I get everybody else to do it cheaper

726
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:17,380
just because it's a sort of an anarchic

727
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:18,610
format doesn't mean there aren't any

728
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:22,210
rules eight rules to barcamp and one

729
00:30:27,750 --> 00:30:25,450
additional 14 skeptic amp the first two

730
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:27,760
rules are you do talk about barcamp and

731
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:29,650
you do blog about biochem and these also

732
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:31,210
apply to skeptic amp so any of you've

733
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:33,610
got a blog I expect you to write about

734
00:30:38,460 --> 00:30:35,410
skeptic amp now that I've given you this

735
00:30:41,430 --> 00:30:38,470
talk okay the third one is if you want

736
00:30:42,810 --> 00:30:41,440
to present you present and the write

737
00:30:44,970 --> 00:30:42,820
your name and presentations lot on the

738
00:30:46,740 --> 00:30:44,980
day and off you go fourth rule is

739
00:30:48,150 --> 00:30:46,750
minimal introductions minimum time

740
00:30:50,580 --> 00:30:48,160
between speakers because it's all about

741
00:30:54,630 --> 00:30:50,590
the speakers we might have broken that

742
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:54,640
slightly on Saturday this rule fit as

743
00:30:58,980 --> 00:30:56,290
many presentations in as we can we tried

744
00:31:01,020 --> 00:30:58,990
to do that I think we got 30 slots all

745
00:31:03,750 --> 00:31:01,030
up 30 speakers a lot of whom were

746
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:03,760
speaking for the first time so that was

747
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:05,890
phenomenal we don't appreciate Jill

748
00:31:12,210 --> 00:31:08,290
anything that's real six presentations

749
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:12,220
go on as long as they possibly can the

750
00:31:15,420 --> 00:31:14,050
eighth rule is if it's your first time

751
00:31:16,890 --> 00:31:15,430
you have to present now it was

752
00:31:18,990 --> 00:31:16,900
everybody's first time on saturday we

753
00:31:22,610 --> 00:31:19,000
got about a hundred people in to fit

754
00:31:25,230 --> 00:31:22,620
into 30 slots go to that rule as well

755
00:31:27,300 --> 00:31:25,240
but the last rule is as with all

756
00:31:29,310 --> 00:31:27,310
skeptical things you have to be able to

757
00:31:31,060 --> 00:31:29,320
back up your assertions with sources

758
00:31:33,460 --> 00:31:31,070
when asked

759
00:31:38,350 --> 00:31:33,470
and quite a few people did kind of do

760
00:31:39,850 --> 00:31:38,360
that I'm sorry it was fun to see as to

761
00:31:41,289 --> 00:31:39,860
why do we do it well I've kind of

762
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:41,299
touched on that already its kind of

763
00:31:45,700 --> 00:31:44,570
enabling the grassroots if you like how

764
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:45,710
many of you are familiar with the long

765
00:31:53,289 --> 00:31:49,370
tail diagram the graph and business I'm

766
00:31:55,299 --> 00:31:53,299
billion okay Millie with it high end

767
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:55,309
we've got you know you Michael streamers

768
00:31:59,049 --> 00:31:56,450
and you James Randy's in your fill

769
00:32:02,200 --> 00:31:59,059
plates these guys who've got huge reach

770
00:32:04,570 --> 00:32:02,210
and huge impact and at this end here we

771
00:32:07,149 --> 00:32:04,580
go through bloggers and twitter is and

772
00:32:09,879 --> 00:32:07,159
write the way down to brand new skeptics

773
00:32:10,990 --> 00:32:09,889
who yeah not necessarily done anything

774
00:32:13,330 --> 00:32:11,000
before I'm not even attended a

775
00:32:15,190 --> 00:32:13,340
conference so what we want to do is

776
00:32:16,509 --> 00:32:15,200
these guys are great and they're doing

777
00:32:19,899 --> 00:32:16,519
quite well on their own we want to

778
00:32:22,210 --> 00:32:19,909
enable these guys in the long tail to

779
00:32:25,269 --> 00:32:22,220
get more out of skepticism and to put

780
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:25,279
more in it's that basically that what

781
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:28,610
that's all about Oh feel free to ask

782
00:32:34,950 --> 00:32:31,490
questions as we go along because you

783
00:32:40,980 --> 00:32:39,210
so how do we do it while we turn up the

784
00:32:43,740 --> 00:32:40,990
first thing is a 10 skeptic amps and

785
00:32:48,269 --> 00:32:43,750
talk about skeptic amps I spread the

786
00:32:49,500 --> 00:32:48,279
word in terms of organization all you

787
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:49,510
can get involved if you want an

788
00:32:53,789 --> 00:32:52,690
organizing a skeptic am the next one I

789
00:32:56,580 --> 00:32:53,799
think we'll be in melbourne and

790
00:32:58,409 --> 00:32:56,590
September they're hoping for early

791
00:33:00,930 --> 00:32:58,419
September we might even be able to

792
00:33:02,130 --> 00:33:00,940
squeeze a camera in before that and any

793
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:02,140
of you that want to get involved and

794
00:33:09,919 --> 00:33:05,450
help out with those feel free

795
00:33:11,510 --> 00:33:09,929
and the fourth thing really is just to

796
00:33:13,220 --> 00:33:11,520
make it viral and in fact other people

797
00:33:14,870 --> 00:33:13,230
with the idea of skeptic am because it's

798
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:14,880
a I think it's a great idea that's

799
00:33:21,770 --> 00:33:17,610
really why I got involved in the first

800
00:33:23,210 --> 00:33:21,780
place and kind of go in there and then

801
00:33:25,399 --> 00:33:23,220
I've got a slide with a bunch of URLs

802
00:33:28,159 --> 00:33:25,409
we've got a website at skeptic amp

803
00:33:30,470 --> 00:33:28,169
Australia dog we've got a facebook

804
00:33:34,490 --> 00:33:30,480
presence if you're on Facebook Follow us

805
00:33:36,140 --> 00:33:34,500
on Twitter I'd skipped camp au and what

806
00:33:38,990 --> 00:33:36,150
else are we go we've got a google group

807
00:33:41,690 --> 00:33:39,000
for organizers which if you want to join

808
00:33:43,220 --> 00:33:41,700
in and become an organizer i'll go and

809
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:43,230
talk to me and i'll give you the URL and

810
00:33:51,620 --> 00:33:45,690
you can join in because it's too long to

811
00:33:53,690 --> 00:33:51,630
read out but who's the questions mess

812
00:33:59,419 --> 00:33:53,700
when Sydney will be a year away same

813
00:34:03,260 --> 00:33:59,429
time next year tight yes jasmine purple

814
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:03,270
fairy who you might know okay the first

815
00:34:07,490 --> 00:34:05,490
one was when's the next one Sydney one

816
00:34:10,940 --> 00:34:07,500
year away glad then asked after being

817
00:34:13,389 --> 00:34:10,950
videotaped yes jasmine David happy

818
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:13,399
singers girlfriend videoed the main room

819
00:34:16,669 --> 00:34:15,690
she's at the moment editing them up in

820
00:34:19,190 --> 00:34:16,679
some titles on them they'll be on

821
00:34:21,619 --> 00:34:19,200
YouTube or Vimeo within the next few

822
00:34:23,510 --> 00:34:21,629
days keep an eye on the channels the

823
00:34:25,220 --> 00:34:23,520
website the Twitter stream the facebook

824
00:34:29,690 --> 00:34:25,230
page they'll be publicized there hello

825
00:34:31,379 --> 00:34:29,700
Oh what about regional getting out of

826
00:34:33,879 --> 00:34:31,389
season getting

827
00:34:36,010 --> 00:34:33,889
so the question for the benefit of the

828
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:36,020
tape as one of what about regional

829
00:34:43,330 --> 00:34:39,290
events you can also do you want to do

830
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:43,340
newcastle one may not thanks to all what

831
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:45,050
we will do will get a lot of small brain

832
00:34:50,430 --> 00:34:46,970
people together and collectively you'll

833
00:34:54,220 --> 00:34:50,440
have a very large brain further inland

834
00:34:58,930 --> 00:34:54,230
as in one of orange that kind of area so

835
00:35:00,910 --> 00:34:58,940
I you know original birth of their boy I

836
00:35:03,030 --> 00:35:00,920
would love to do one in land in a sort

837
00:35:05,790 --> 00:35:03,040
of a smaller regional center it would be

838
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:05,800
excellent but is there sufficient

839
00:35:17,470 --> 00:35:14,830
yeah there's nobody in Canberra Canberra

840
00:35:19,210 --> 00:35:17,480
is a weird one cameras gotta really so

841
00:35:20,770 --> 00:35:19,220
it's a university town and it's got a

842
00:35:23,590 --> 00:35:20,780
good sort of science communicator

843
00:35:25,150 --> 00:35:23,600
community and there's already a thriving

844
00:35:27,700 --> 00:35:25,160
barcamp community there so cameras going

845
00:35:31,930 --> 00:35:27,710
to be relatively easy I'm worried about

846
00:35:33,550 --> 00:35:31,940
Brisbane actually maybe not if something

847
00:35:35,650 --> 00:35:33,560
is quite at the regional gallery in

848
00:35:37,060 --> 00:35:35,660
lease for oddly enough that's going area

849
00:35:38,710 --> 00:35:37,070
around there with people like having

850
00:35:40,870 --> 00:35:38,720
debates that the regional gallery in

851
00:35:43,900 --> 00:35:40,880
lismore seeing some artists go on there

852
00:35:45,580 --> 00:35:43,910
and that could be venue a possibility

853
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:45,590
that's not too far from Bengal oh is

854
00:35:53,109 --> 00:35:50,410
that so we have a skeptic am bengal oh

855
00:35:55,330 --> 00:35:53,119
damn do you want to organize that you

856
00:36:00,280 --> 00:35:55,340
might ever be I swear

857
00:36:02,170 --> 00:36:00,290
oh Bobby's were discussed oh yes what

858
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:02,180
kind of topics were discussed we yeah

859
00:36:05,820 --> 00:36:04,490
well obviously skeptic am was discussed

860
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:05,830
because this is what I'm telling you now

861
00:36:11,310 --> 00:36:09,410
Peter bowditch did a talk probably good

862
00:36:14,770 --> 00:36:11,320
well-received talk i'm not getting sued

863
00:36:16,660 --> 00:36:14,780
that was quite a good one Tim do talk

864
00:36:18,700 --> 00:36:16,670
what was your talking in dealing with

865
00:36:21,370 --> 00:36:18,710
the media how not to make an ass of

866
00:36:25,030 --> 00:36:21,380
yourself in the media that was very

867
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:25,040
interesting we had a pilot who survived

868
00:36:31,720 --> 00:36:27,050
an engine failure talking about fear of

869
00:36:34,180 --> 00:36:31,730
flying that was pretty good what else in

870
00:36:35,770 --> 00:36:34,190
Los Angeles oh I didn't I didn't see

871
00:36:38,230 --> 00:36:35,780
that the Gospel according to George

872
00:36:41,770 --> 00:36:38,240
Lucas I didn't see that on our point

873
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:41,780
guard about it of the entire day I think

874
00:36:46,570 --> 00:36:43,370
that was one of the best received and I

875
00:36:49,660 --> 00:36:46,580
missed it I'm quite disappointed on we

876
00:36:51,670 --> 00:36:49,670
had a former youth pastor from the

877
00:36:53,820 --> 00:36:51,680
western suburbs area talking about how

878
00:36:56,990 --> 00:36:53,830
scripture classes are conducted and

879
00:37:01,280 --> 00:36:57,000
there's a lot of

880
00:37:04,550 --> 00:37:01,290
in the room and what else was that

881
00:37:06,830 --> 00:37:04,560
George wells was there may not go out at

882
00:37:08,510 --> 00:37:06,840
all yeah there were three excellent open

883
00:37:11,240 --> 00:37:08,520
discussions facilitated by the guys from

884
00:37:13,730 --> 00:37:11,250
Canberra one on getting women involved

885
00:37:16,670 --> 00:37:13,740
in skepticism and how to best direct

886
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:16,680
that another one on I think it was

887
00:37:21,650 --> 00:37:19,290
general outreach kind of things and His

888
00:37:24,110 --> 00:37:21,660
image skepticism an entertainment that

889
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:24,120
was quite good on um so yeah you missed

890
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:26,490
it your skepticism from the Republic

891
00:37:31,790 --> 00:37:29,130
yeah that was be voltageous one wasn't

892
00:37:34,370 --> 00:37:31,800
it be bout here yeah I have the general

893
00:37:36,500 --> 00:37:34,380
public perceives skepticism and they

894
00:37:37,790 --> 00:37:36,510
were all excellent and the open sort of

895
00:37:39,350 --> 00:37:37,800
discussion format seem to work really

896
00:37:43,990 --> 00:37:39,360
well so we'll do a bit more of that I

897
00:37:46,700 --> 00:37:44,000
think that the next ones there'll be

898
00:37:49,070 --> 00:37:46,710
well I think it'll be youtube.com

899
00:37:54,890 --> 00:37:49,080
forward slash skeptic ambe you probably

900
00:38:00,620 --> 00:37:54,900
but will publicize it on the website yes

901
00:38:03,020 --> 00:38:00,630
we can get it on the meetup page sure we

902
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:03,030
can have a similar number of people will

903
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:04,890
it have a similar no beer or more use

904
00:38:14,090 --> 00:38:11,090
your crystal ball magic 8-ball says more

905
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:14,100
I'm hoping for more we did sell out all

906
00:38:17,150 --> 00:38:15,330
of the tickets we had a few non

907
00:38:21,350 --> 00:38:17,160
attendees which is kind of expected with

908
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:21,360
a free event for a paid event you expect

909
00:38:25,130 --> 00:38:23,130
sort of a ten percent maybe no shell

910
00:38:26,540 --> 00:38:25,140
with a free event you can on that up

911
00:38:28,250 --> 00:38:26,550
towards the twenty percent mark we go

912
00:38:31,610 --> 00:38:28,260
around i think twenty to twenty-five

913
00:38:33,470 --> 00:38:31,620
percent no shot so I reckon next time we

914
00:38:35,090 --> 00:38:33,480
could probably add an extra room at UTS

915
00:38:37,220 --> 00:38:35,100
I've already talked to UTS about getting

916
00:38:40,700 --> 00:38:37,230
the venue again next year which is kind

917
00:38:43,060 --> 00:38:40,710
of exciting and scary so I record three

918
00:38:48,530 --> 00:38:43,070
rooms 150 people how'd you reckon yeah

919
00:38:50,660 --> 00:38:48,540
will you all tear up yeah it's free we

920
00:38:53,390 --> 00:38:50,670
provided the lunch and we provided some

921
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:53,400
drinks afterwards thanks to your

922
00:38:57,940 --> 00:38:55,050
brilliant sponsor who's probably about

923
00:39:01,640 --> 00:38:57,950
to say it mentioned the sponsors

924
00:39:03,410 --> 00:39:01,650
Australian skeptics but around Iran was

925
00:39:05,990 --> 00:39:03,420
the liaison for the sponsorship for us

926
00:39:09,630 --> 00:39:06,000
it was excellent it really was actually

927
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:12,160
there was the stationery and things like

928
00:39:19,150 --> 00:39:16,249
that the bar tab what were the costs are

929
00:39:22,329 --> 00:39:19,160
treasures in just over that way what

930
00:39:24,099 --> 00:39:22,339
other costs through their general

931
00:39:28,289 --> 00:39:24,109
running around and transport a plan of

932
00:39:31,390 --> 00:39:28,299
nonsense the the venue we got for free

933
00:39:33,009 --> 00:39:31,400
oh yeah I'm prizes we bought a bunch of

934
00:39:35,380 --> 00:39:33,019
the prizes to give away in the closing

935
00:39:37,870 --> 00:39:35,390
session so we did actually end up with a

936
00:39:40,900 --> 00:39:37,880
surplus at the end which is going to go

937
00:39:45,130 --> 00:39:40,910
towards future events I think we got

938
00:39:46,870 --> 00:39:45,140
about 200 300 left in the bank and as

939
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:46,880
part of the event we wanted to do an

940
00:39:51,549 --> 00:39:48,650
auction with a picture of james randi

941
00:39:53,979 --> 00:39:51,559
that raised could be in santa claus

942
00:39:56,380 --> 00:39:53,989
visit Santa Claus or James Randi Charles

943
00:39:58,359 --> 00:39:56,390
Darwin that raised two hundred bucks

944
00:40:00,430 --> 00:39:58,369
towards Melbourne so Melbourne was fixed

945
00:40:02,450 --> 00:40:00,440
and that's going to happen in September

946
00:40:05,210 --> 00:40:02,460
hopefully

947
00:40:07,390 --> 00:40:05,220
over the downside downsides right there

948
00:40:10,570 --> 00:40:07,400
were a few things that we did do wrong

949
00:40:12,500 --> 00:40:10,580
the Wi-Fi access was pretty poor so I

950
00:40:13,970 --> 00:40:12,510
was kind of hoping that more people

951
00:40:15,260 --> 00:40:13,980
would be tweeting and facebooking and

952
00:40:18,980 --> 00:40:15,270
that kind of thing but the internet

953
00:40:20,690 --> 00:40:18,990
access was a problem I've already talked

954
00:40:22,970 --> 00:40:20,700
to UTS about that for next year and

955
00:40:25,430 --> 00:40:22,980
there's better ways of doing it so we

956
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:25,440
have that fixed tea and coffee making

957
00:40:30,470 --> 00:40:29,130
facilities we did wrong wasn't enough

958
00:40:32,570 --> 00:40:30,480
water so people had to keep running

959
00:40:34,310 --> 00:40:32,580
around with Carol's to try and reball

960
00:40:35,930 --> 00:40:34,320
them and the power kept going off and

961
00:40:40,370 --> 00:40:35,940
that kind of thing that's a kind of a

962
00:40:45,260 --> 00:40:40,380
small problem to me what else did we do

963
00:40:46,700 --> 00:40:45,270
wrong lack of signage yeah we kind of

964
00:40:48,109 --> 00:40:46,710
had to keep tweaking the finest through

965
00:40:57,260 --> 00:40:48,119
the day because people at first didn't

966
00:40:59,150 --> 00:40:57,270
know what where to go or what to do here

967
00:41:00,260 --> 00:40:59,160
yeah that was that was what we had to

968
00:41:01,820 --> 00:41:00,270
kind of overcome at the start the

969
00:41:04,430 --> 00:41:01,830
security at UTS wouldn't let us put

970
00:41:06,050 --> 00:41:04,440
signs up so a few people got lost yes

971
00:41:07,910 --> 00:41:06,060
guys you had people showing your way to

972
00:41:10,430 --> 00:41:07,920
go yeah was quite good we had quite a

973
00:41:14,630 --> 00:41:10,440
lot of volunteers so you know there were

974
00:41:16,910 --> 00:41:14,640
enough hands to get stuff so next year

975
00:41:18,829 --> 00:41:16,920
we'll need half as many volunteers again

976
00:41:21,950 --> 00:41:18,839
on top I guess some of you will be doing

977
00:41:24,109 --> 00:41:21,960
our hope yeah 31 interviews for the

978
00:41:26,780 --> 00:41:24,119
skeptic zone and they'll emerge one way

979
00:41:29,780 --> 00:41:26,790
or another over and may not miss the

980
00:41:32,180 --> 00:41:29,790
band and the band was awesome apparently

981
00:41:33,620 --> 00:41:32,190
no more question first of all I like

982
00:41:35,180 --> 00:41:33,630
questions this is what's kept the cams

983
00:41:41,690 --> 00:41:35,190
about more questions what you pay the

984
00:41:43,910 --> 00:41:41,700
color yeah I'll do it again and I'll say

985
00:41:46,250 --> 00:41:43,920
thank you to all the sponsors Australian

986
00:41:48,790 --> 00:41:46,260
skeptics were a major sponsor they gave

987
00:41:51,410 --> 00:41:48,800
us quite a decent amount of money

988
00:41:52,970 --> 00:41:51,420
skeptic a calm which I run chucked in a

989
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:52,980
couple hundred bucks David avi Sanger

990
00:41:57,350 --> 00:41:56,010
calm so I clinical under bucks a company

991
00:42:00,140 --> 00:41:57,360
called knee-deep in design out in the

992
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:00,150
western suburbs who do avatars and

993
00:42:03,710 --> 00:42:01,530
things like that for social media sites

994
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:03,720
they put in a few hundred token skeptic

995
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:06,570
podcasts and whoever messed Western

996
00:42:12,530 --> 00:42:10,650
Sydney freethinkers they were all UTSA

997
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:12,540
fee has tapped out with the venue we

998
00:42:20,090 --> 00:42:13,530
didn't give us any money because they

999
00:42:22,100 --> 00:42:20,100
don't have any turn around oh yes just

1000
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:22,110
breather and we supported stop the AV

1001
00:42:26,750 --> 00:42:25,410
and obviously as we always do yeah if

1002
00:42:29,060 --> 00:42:26,760
you want to ask me anything here and

1003
00:42:45,509 --> 00:42:29,070
private I'm over there they just don't

1004
00:42:50,889 --> 00:42:48,849
hello on Allah needle on solo scoffs of

1005
00:42:53,229 --> 00:42:50,899
dip moment been to an at lowes another

1006
00:42:58,539 --> 00:42:53,239
skeptic zone for weed to stop and Katie

1007
00:43:13,870 --> 00:42:58,549
Schneider meeting for Marcy Hana we may

1008
00:43:16,149 --> 00:43:13,880
be some skeptics own funds TV well I'm

1009
00:43:19,809 --> 00:43:16,159
sitting here in Newtown in wife favorite

1010
00:43:22,269 --> 00:43:19,819
cafe which is the which is the two out

1011
00:43:24,699 --> 00:43:22,279
of four to cafe and deli and of course

1012
00:43:25,870 --> 00:43:24,709
I'm with dr. HC catching up with dr. H

1013
00:43:27,729 --> 00:43:25,880
II having a quick lunch and just

1014
00:43:30,159 --> 00:43:27,739
deciding what our next steps will be but

1015
00:43:31,569 --> 00:43:30,169
dr. aging it's a bit sad because no

1016
00:43:35,889 --> 00:43:31,579
matter what we plan it's all in vain

1017
00:43:37,929 --> 00:43:35,899
isn't it oh yeah tomorrow's yet well you

1018
00:43:40,409 --> 00:43:37,939
know I don't think tomorrow's it for us

1019
00:43:43,059 --> 00:43:40,419
I think sunday is it for us because

1020
00:43:44,499 --> 00:43:43,069
tomorrow is the rapture and there sunday

1021
00:43:46,029 --> 00:43:44,509
there's a huge earthquake and I think

1022
00:43:48,549 --> 00:43:46,039
that's going to destroy the world it's

1023
00:43:51,219 --> 00:43:48,559
alright so tomorrow or the other people

1024
00:43:53,349 --> 00:43:51,229
who believe that will be sucked up to

1025
00:43:55,509 --> 00:43:53,359
heaven yeah we'll be left going where

1026
00:43:58,269 --> 00:43:55,519
all these numpties gone yeah and then

1027
00:44:00,819 --> 00:43:58,279
we'll be in for it that's what I've

1028
00:44:02,349 --> 00:44:00,829
heard but I've also been invited to some

1029
00:44:08,169 --> 00:44:02,359
post rupture looting party's tomorrow

1030
00:44:10,479 --> 00:44:08,179
night it sounds interesting but I think

1031
00:44:13,179 --> 00:44:10,489
some genius has also set up a couple of

1032
00:44:14,709 --> 00:44:13,189
businesses where you can if you are a

1033
00:44:16,569 --> 00:44:14,719
Christian going to heaven tomorrow

1034
00:44:19,809 --> 00:44:16,579
they'll take care of your pets post

1035
00:44:21,159 --> 00:44:19,819
rapture oh yeah so they'll probably be a

1036
00:44:22,509 --> 00:44:21,169
lot of hungry cats and dogs running

1037
00:44:24,489 --> 00:44:22,519
around tomorrow night but maybe that a

1038
00:44:26,259 --> 00:44:24,499
theist will have to feed I think the

1039
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:26,269
worst thing about that the fact that the

1040
00:44:32,769 --> 00:44:28,729
world's ending is that we were meant to

1041
00:44:36,399 --> 00:44:32,779
go to mind/body wallet no we won't be

1042
00:44:38,289 --> 00:44:36,409
able to go now oh but sadly mind-body

1043
00:44:39,549 --> 00:44:38,299
wallet did start yesterday so they'll

1044
00:44:42,609 --> 00:44:39,559
have two days or three

1045
00:44:44,589 --> 00:44:42,619
spread their nonsense well just in case

1046
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:44,599
and I know it's an extreme possibility

1047
00:44:49,089 --> 00:44:46,249
but just in case the world doesn't end I

1048
00:44:51,819 --> 00:44:49,099
think we'll go anyway on Sunday um you

1049
00:44:53,439 --> 00:44:51,829
know Richard last time I went I said I

1050
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:53,449
wasn't going again and the last time

1051
00:44:58,359 --> 00:44:55,249
before that over yeah and I think if

1052
00:45:00,670 --> 00:44:58,369
this is recall the last report we did

1053
00:45:03,429 --> 00:45:00,680
from my body wallet you and I was

1054
00:45:07,089 --> 00:45:03,439
started off quite sort of sprightly and

1055
00:45:08,769 --> 00:45:07,099
and and uh bubbly and by the end of it

1056
00:45:10,660 --> 00:45:08,779
we were on a bus coming home and we just

1057
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:10,670
sounded like exhausted and pissed off

1058
00:45:14,439 --> 00:45:12,890
and cranky and yeah yeah yeah so I

1059
00:45:17,109 --> 00:45:14,449
expect that's what's going to happen

1060
00:45:18,429 --> 00:45:17,119
again I think so sunday I think so it's

1061
00:45:21,609 --> 00:45:18,439
going to be interesting it always is

1062
00:45:24,999 --> 00:45:21,619
interesting but you know what there's a

1063
00:45:27,789 --> 00:45:25,009
lot there too that is concerning oh yeah

1064
00:45:29,890 --> 00:45:27,799
and as much as it does suck from time to

1065
00:45:33,299 --> 00:45:29,900
time it's important that we do go yeah i

1066
00:45:35,679 --> 00:45:33,309
mean it is and if you don't want to be

1067
00:45:37,209 --> 00:45:35,689
accused of being an armchair skip dinner

1068
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:37,219
so you do have to go to these things to

1069
00:45:43,390 --> 00:45:39,890
do your research to you know to ask

1070
00:45:45,989 --> 00:45:43,400
questions in a nice way and then report

1071
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them to the health authorities if you so

1072
00:45:52,569 --> 00:45:49,130
fancier absolutely if you're inclined

1073
00:45:55,419 --> 00:45:52,579
absolutely well my my line for many

1074
00:45:57,999 --> 00:45:55,429
years is that the people at mind-body

1075
00:46:00,640 --> 00:45:58,009
wallet a certain percentage of them have

1076
00:46:04,059 --> 00:46:00,650
been getting away with very bad things

1077
00:46:06,009 --> 00:46:04,069
for far too long they have they have

1078
00:46:08,079 --> 00:46:06,019
they have where's the tax department in

1079
00:46:10,209 --> 00:46:08,089
the health department you know they

1080
00:46:13,569 --> 00:46:10,219
should be in there it should be but

1081
00:46:15,549 --> 00:46:13,579
until then we'll give it a go well I've

1082
00:46:17,499 --> 00:46:15,559
enjoyed a wonderful cauliflower soup

1083
00:46:19,809 --> 00:46:17,509
you're enjoying a wonderful tuna

1084
00:46:21,549 --> 00:46:19,819
sandwich there and it's nice have

1085
00:46:23,499 --> 00:46:21,559
enjoyed my time on this planet me too

1086
00:46:25,059 --> 00:46:23,509
it's been ok yeah thanks for being my

1087
00:46:26,709 --> 00:46:25,069
friend Richard oh that's alright Reggie

1088
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:26,719
thank you for doing such hard work for

1089
00:46:29,469 --> 00:46:27,890
the skeptic zone for the last three

1090
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:29,479
years no that's no problem so I guess

1091
00:46:38,849 --> 00:46:36,810
I won't have any more skipping stones to

1092
00:46:59,880 --> 00:46:38,859
produce oh maybe I will who knows we'll

1093
00:47:01,589 --> 00:46:59,890
find out thanks ray g5 astronomy cast it

1094
00:47:03,720 --> 00:47:01,599
takes a fact space journey through the

1095
00:47:05,730 --> 00:47:03,730
cosmos as it offers listeners weekly

1096
00:47:09,060 --> 00:47:05,740
discussions on astronomical topics

1097
00:47:11,190 --> 00:47:09,070
ranging from planets to cosmology hosted

1098
00:47:13,380 --> 00:47:11,200
by Fraser Cain of Universe Today and

1099
00:47:15,900 --> 00:47:13,390
myself dr. Pamela gave southern illinois

1100
00:47:17,970 --> 00:47:15,910
university edwardsville this show brings

1101
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:17,980
the questions of an avid astronomy lover

1102
00:47:22,500 --> 00:47:20,410
directly to an astronomer together

1103
00:47:24,030 --> 00:47:22,510
Fraser and I explore what is known and

1104
00:47:26,790 --> 00:47:24,040
being discovered about the universe

1105
00:47:28,890 --> 00:47:26,800
around us join us each week as we take a

1106
00:47:46,030 --> 00:47:28,900
fact space journey through the cosmos at

1107
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:48,260
thank you for listening to the skeptic

1108
00:47:51,049 --> 00:47:49,770
zone if you've made it this far and

1109
00:47:53,900 --> 00:47:51,059
you're still in one piece and the earth

1110
00:47:56,030 --> 00:47:53,910
hasn't fallen around about you you're

1111
00:47:58,490 --> 00:47:56,040
doing pretty well I'm doing pretty well

1112
00:48:00,710 --> 00:47:58,500
I'm feeling okay I've got I'm optimistic

1113
00:48:01,940 --> 00:48:00,720
about there being a tomorrow and the

1114
00:48:03,799 --> 00:48:01,950
next day and the next day and the next

1115
00:48:06,710 --> 00:48:03,809
week in the next year in the next area

1116
00:48:08,180 --> 00:48:06,720
well and on it goes thank you to all

1117
00:48:11,329 --> 00:48:08,190
those people who have taken an interest

1118
00:48:13,309 --> 00:48:11,339
in the upcoming series of the one here

1119
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:13,319
in Australia the the psychic show which

1120
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:16,650
I take part in I'm not at liberty to

1121
00:48:21,799 --> 00:48:19,170
give away too much information about the

1122
00:48:26,150 --> 00:48:21,809
show all I can say is I hope it's a lot

1123
00:48:28,490 --> 00:48:26,160
of fun for everybody and on that note

1124
00:48:31,910 --> 00:48:28,500
thank you once again for listening thank

1125
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:31,920
you for contributing and some people

1126
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:33,930
very nice people lately have been

1127
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:36,930
sending in a little bit of our money for

1128
00:48:41,870 --> 00:48:39,930
us to use to buy drinks what are we

1129
00:48:45,620 --> 00:48:41,880
doing the think tank we sure will be

1130
00:48:48,740 --> 00:48:45,630
doing that until next week's episode

1131
00:48:55,750 --> 00:48:48,750
this is Richard Saunders signing off

1132
00:49:03,319 --> 00:48:58,160
you've been listening to the skeptic

1133
00:49:07,220 --> 00:49:03,329
zone visit her website at WWF techzone